Subject Re: Runtime Files From Patrick Kox <Patrick Kox> <Patrick Kox <Patrick Kox>> Date Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:36:11 +0100 Newsgroups dbase.getting-started On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:48:15 -0800, "Ken Mayer [dBVIPS]" <dbase@_nospam_goldenstag.net> wrote: >Patrick Kox wrote: >> >> So here is my question. >> >> 1. I noticed that the final tutorial.exe doesn't work (get the well >> known can't run PLUSRUN error 740 or something). > >Is this one YOU created, or one that was out on the web? The one on the >web was probably done with an older version of dBASE ... and sometimes >the runtimes are not compatible ... It's the one downloaded from the website (so the one that Michael Nuwer made). I didn't have time to go through the entire Tutorial yet (I"m at the custom forms section at the moemt). > >> 2. If I add the PLUSr_en.dll, PLUSrun.exe, plusrun.exe.manifest and >> tutorial.exe.manifest files to the directory I get the message to run >> it in "Admin" mode (don't really know if that's needed ?) and the >> program works. > >You need to run some things in administrator mode. Yes, that how I understood it aswell, I also need to add that resources.dll is also needed to actually use the tutorial.exe since if it's not present you get an error when you want to view/edit a form that it's missing. > >> So without installation and just by adding these files it all seems to >> work well. But without these files it doesn't run (and I assume that >> the runtimes are installed by default after installing dBASE Plus). > >If you install dBASE, yes, the runtime files are installed (oddly >enough, in a RUNTIME folder with the current versions of dBASE). > So this looks like you need to put the needed runtime files in every directory which contains a program that requires plusrun.exe ? So if you make 5 dBASE based programs the runtimes need to be in all 5 Application Directories ? (or is there someway to use the runtimes installed with the installer, dBASE does offer a setup file for the runtimes (in different languages)  so I guess it should be possible ? >> >> And that brings me to the questions, >> >> 1. Why is an installer better ? (since it seems to work fine without, >> at least for me) > >This way you can make sure that files are installed as needed, >everything gets put where the client needs it, and you can ensure that >the BDE and runtime are installed correctly. > >> 2. What should be included with an installer to make it all work (and >> does the installer need to include the installer for the runtimes ?). > >I do (again, this ensures that everything is installed correctly and >entries in the Windows Registry are made correctly). Have you read that >section of my book? No, I'm reading through Chapter One, "Important tools in dBASE plus" > >> 3. Is anyone known with DeployMaster ? It's from the same people as >> EditPad Pro 6 which is a very good program. >> >> Or do you advise another installer (like the free inno one) and why ? > >Inno is free, which is a good reason on its own, it is constantly being >updated so it works with current versions of Windows ... and most of us >are familiar with it ... there are folk who have done some fairly >complex installations using Inno Setup ... > >Ken Thanks for the information Ken.