Subject Re: this.parent From Gaetano <gaetanodd@hotmail.com> Date Thu, 19 Nov 2020 14:57:34 +1000 Newsgroups dbase.getting-started The rowset is not "aware" of the "form", so you need to navigate up from the rowset to the query  (this.parent), then from the query to the datamodule if there is one (this.parent.parent) and from there to the form (this.parent.parent.parent.visitcr.time1ef.value): if not empty(this.parent.parent.visitcr.time1ef.value) or if not empty(this.parent.parent.prent visitcr.time1ef.value) if there is a datamodule involved If you want to know what "this" or what the "parent" level is, insert a msgbox: msgbox("'this' is a"+this.baseclassname) msgbox("'this.parent' is a"+this.parent.baseclassname) Cheers, Gaetano. On 19/11/2020 13:28, Moses Hanna wrote: > Hi > I have an entryfield object ... form.visitcr.time1ef > If i want to refer to it from rowset.cannavigate function > I am using        if not empty(form.visitcr.time1ef.value) > gives me error msg variable undefined > i this I have to use something like this.parent... etc but I dont get it > exactly > some help ? > Moses > > >