Subject Re: Virtulizing Dbase software from local to web
From Michael <Michael@itntgroup.com.au>
Date Tue, 19 Mar 2019 03:40:15 -0400
Newsgroups dbase.getting-started

Thanks Rich, your giving me hope.

My software is already structured to run with terminal services or Remote  Desktop Protocol. I have also looked at RDP through HTML browers. Havent found a clean one yet but I see new ones popping up everywhere.

However, I have also had issues runnign windows in a virtual desktop environment.

Any suggestions in this sphere?

Regards,

Michael




<rich@autotraker.com> Wrote:

> Michael and Mark.
> Actually this program just redirects the output of the local program to a
> web browser.
> I seem to recall doing this several years ago using UltraVNC and dBASE 2.80.
> It had the abilities to be able to access your desktop via a browser and
> setting it to only run a single program.
> I bet this is very similar technology only tied up in a pretty wrapper and
> more user friendly.
> I'm sure with a little creative work you can configure one of the many VNC
> type viewers to do the same thing as the Thinfinity VirtualUI.
> And don't discount the Thinfinity VirtualUI too fast. My quick testing
> wasn't enough to satisfy me to say this will not work with dBASE.
> dBASE is a Microsoft Windows Win32 application. I think the older versions
> of dBASE used GDI and the newer use GDI+. Although I could be wrong about
> that.
> Probably need to start off with a simple plain dBASE EXE that has just a
> real basic form, get it working and then build on that.
> Could be it just doesn't have sufficient access rights or maybe using the
> RTEXE switch would make a difference.
> I was using a known good dBASE app I already had in use locally which might
> not have been the best test.
> Needs more experimentation and still might be a viable solution.
> Rich...
>
>
>
> "Michael"  wrote in message news:6Nh3$GZ2UHA.1860@ip-AC1E04A7...
>
> I agree 100% Mark. I am in a similar position but with DBASE I cannot keep
> up to the web advances and button textures, transparancy and  functions used
> in most modern windows software.
>
> I am too a little dissillusioned with dbase as I have mountains of software
> and code and it just isnt economically viable to convert. Also, the
> graphical and features are also heavily code intensive to use produce or
> simply not there.
>
> I hope a solution comes to market, I hope that someone has one somewhere.
>
> Michael.
>
> Mark Wrote:
>
> > Thanks for looking into this Rich. It would be downright incredible.
> >
> > Like others - maybe many - I have massive Plus app supported for years.
> > Regular requests from users now to run on the Web. I know Dbase has tools
> > for this, but conversion would take at least a year if not longer.
> >
> > This option would allow my app to continue for many more years. Instead,
> > am losing out to other Web apps even tho they do not have even half the
> > features, all because they run on the Web. Has me looking into other
> > databases at this point.
> >
> > Likely Dbase would like us to use their other tools, but my guess is this
> > is just not practical for their long-time supporters like me.
> >
> > I hope some progress is made here, and even that Dbase considers what this
> > would mean for retaining clients. An old adage - it is 10 times more
> > expensive to get new clients than retain current clients.
> >
> > Hope they hear this, and thanks again for your efforts.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > <rich@autotraker.com> Wrote:
> >
> > > I haven't been very successful in trying it out with PLUS 12.
> > > As soon as we hit the VUI.Start (60) line, dBASE app ends.
> > > No error message, no nothing, it just goes away.
> > > Trying it with the production server by using just those 2 lines
> > > VUI = new OleAutoClient("VirtualUI.VirtualUI")
> > > VUI.Start (60)
> > > I get the same thing, dBASE just app ends.
> > > I wasted a couple three hours on it with a simple dBASE program I know
> > > properly run and no luck.
> > > I don't think itís a issue with the VirtualUI, I think itís a dBASE
> > > issue.
> > > I haven't yet tried it with a non-dBASE application since the only
> > > development platform I have on this machine is dBASE 12.
> > > While itís a interesting, there does seem like something in dBASE that
> > > doesn't like its screen being redirected.
> > > Rich...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Michael"  wrote in message news:KLkrBvy0UHA.1864@ip-AC1E04A7...
> > >
> > > Hi Rich,
> > >
> > > I have asked Cybel how to interface and this was their reply, does this
> > > give
> > > you a clue? what do I need to ask them? How does Dbase display?
> > >
> > > "Any Windows application that uses Microsoft Windows Win32
> > > GDI/GDI+/DirectX
> > > calls and can interface with an ActiveX library"
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Michael.
> > >
> > > <rich@autotraker.com> Wrote:
> > >
> > > > I did look at it some time ago.
> > > > Probably their VB6 example is a best example for dBASE
> > > > I did try
> > > >    VUI = new OleAutoClient("VirtualUI.VirtualUI")
> > > >    VUI.DevMode = True
> > > >    VUI.DevServer.Port = 6580
> > > >    VUI.DevServer.Enabled = True
> > > >    VUI.Start (60)
> > > > In my startup. It kills the abilities to run it locally and it doesn't
> > > > display in their interface.
> > > > I believe my app was throwing an error but I haven't followed up on it
> > > > to
> > > > see what that may be.
> > > > I imagine the "VirtualUI.VirtualUI" redirects screen writes to a
> > > > virtual
> > > > machine thatís why it can't be run locally.
> > > > I haven't really gone any further than a simple test.
> > > > Might be worthwhile to do some more testing.
> > > > I'm sure they probably haven't a clue if dBASE would work. You'd
> > > > probably
> > > > need to experiment on your own.
> > > > Their licensing scheme is very confusing also.
> > > > It does however look promising.
> > > > Rich...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mark"  wrote in message news:SxcK7TG0UHA.1864@ip-AC1E04A7...
> > > >
> > > > I noticed they support Visual Foxpro.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe falls into silly question category but...anyone here know why
> > > > there
> > > > would not be a way to support a Dbase app? I will probaly contact
> > > > them,
> > > > but
> > > > thought I'd ask here.
> > > >
> > > > Very much in the same boat with a huge app and looking for a way to go
> > > > to
> > > > cloud.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Michael Wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Opps! Heres the link to the product
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.cybelesoft.com/thinfinity/virtualui
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have an extremely large software product originally written in
> > > > > > dbase
> > > > > > and have the main user end updated to DBASE 11. (approximately
> > > > > > half of
> > > > > > it). It has taken me months but now I finding I need to go to
> > > > > > cloud
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > this will require a complete re-write. I have been looking at
> > > > > > solutions
> > > > > > using terminal services to take my legacy product to web and found
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > company that has a virtual UI to run through a browser. Can anyone
> > > > > > tell
> > > > > > me how/what syntax to place these simple commands in dbase
> > > > > > software?
> > > > > > here is a link with examples of different languages and code.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael.
> > > > >
> >