Subject Re: Virtulizing Dbase software from local to web From Michael <Michael@itntgroup.com.au> Date Tue, 19 Mar 2019 03:40:15 -0400 Newsgroups dbase.getting-started Thanks Rich, your giving me hope. My software is already structured to run with terminal services or Remote  Desktop Protocol. I have also looked at RDP through HTML browers. Havent found a clean one yet but I see new ones popping up everywhere. However, I have also had issues runnign windows in a virtual desktop environment. Any suggestions in this sphere? Regards, Michael <rich@autotraker.com> Wrote: > Michael and Mark. > Actually this program just redirects the output of the local program to a > web browser. > I seem to recall doing this several years ago using UltraVNC and dBASE 2.80. > It had the abilities to be able to access your desktop via a browser and > setting it to only run a single program. > I bet this is very similar technology only tied up in a pretty wrapper and > more user friendly. > I'm sure with a little creative work you can configure one of the many VNC > type viewers to do the same thing as the Thinfinity VirtualUI. > And don't discount the Thinfinity VirtualUI too fast. My quick testing > wasn't enough to satisfy me to say this will not work with dBASE. > dBASE is a Microsoft Windows Win32 application. I think the older versions > of dBASE used GDI and the newer use GDI+. Although I could be wrong about > that. > Probably need to start off with a simple plain dBASE EXE that has just a > real basic form, get it working and then build on that. > Could be it just doesn't have sufficient access rights or maybe using the > RTEXE switch would make a difference. > I was using a known good dBASE app I already had in use locally which might > not have been the best test. > Needs more experimentation and still might be a viable solution. > Rich... > > > > "Michael"  wrote in message news:6Nh3$GZ2UHA.1860@ip-AC1E04A7... > > I agree 100% Mark. I am in a similar position but with DBASE I cannot keep > up to the web advances and button textures, transparancy and  functions used > in most modern windows software. > > I am too a little dissillusioned with dbase as I have mountains of software > and code and it just isnt economically viable to convert. Also, the > graphical and features are also heavily code intensive to use produce or > simply not there. > > I hope a solution comes to market, I hope that someone has one somewhere. > > Michael. > > Mark Wrote: > > > Thanks for looking into this Rich. It would be downright incredible. > > > > Like others - maybe many - I have massive Plus app supported for years. > > Regular requests from users now to run on the Web. I know Dbase has tools > > for this, but conversion would take at least a year if not longer. > > > > This option would allow my app to continue for many more years. Instead, > > am losing out to other Web apps even tho they do not have even half the > > features, all because they run on the Web. Has me looking into other > > databases at this point. > > > > Likely Dbase would like us to use their other tools, but my guess is this > > is just not practical for their long-time supporters like me. > > > > I hope some progress is made here, and even that Dbase considers what this > > would mean for retaining clients. An old adage - it is 10 times more > > expensive to get new clients than retain current clients. > > > > Hope they hear this, and thanks again for your efforts. > > > > Mark > > > > <rich@autotraker.com> Wrote: > > > > > I haven't been very successful in trying it out with PLUS 12. > > > As soon as we hit the VUI.Start (60) line, dBASE app ends. > > > No error message, no nothing, it just goes away. > > > Trying it with the production server by using just those 2 lines > > > VUI = new OleAutoClient("VirtualUI.VirtualUI") > > > VUI.Start (60) > > > I get the same thing, dBASE just app ends. > > > I wasted a couple three hours on it with a simple dBASE program I know > > > properly run and no luck. > > > I don't think it’s a issue with the VirtualUI, I think it’s a dBASE > > > issue. > > > I haven't yet tried it with a non-dBASE application since the only > > > development platform I have on this machine is dBASE 12. > > > While it’s a interesting, there does seem like something in dBASE that > > > doesn't like its screen being redirected. > > > Rich... > > > > > > > > > > > > "Michael"  wrote in message news:KLkrBvy0UHA.1864@ip-AC1E04A7... > > > > > > Hi Rich, > > > > > > I have asked Cybel how to interface and this was their reply, does this > > > give > > > you a clue? what do I need to ask them? How does Dbase display? > > > > > > "Any Windows application that uses Microsoft Windows Win32 > > > GDI/GDI+/DirectX > > > calls and can interface with an ActiveX library" > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Michael. > > > > > > <rich@autotraker.com> Wrote: > > > > > > > I did look at it some time ago. > > > > Probably their VB6 example is a best example for dBASE > > > > I did try > > > >    VUI = new OleAutoClient("VirtualUI.VirtualUI") > > > >    VUI.DevMode = True > > > >    VUI.DevServer.Port = 6580 > > > >    VUI.DevServer.Enabled = True > > > >    VUI.Start (60) > > > > In my startup. It kills the abilities to run it locally and it doesn't > > > > display in their interface. > > > > I believe my app was throwing an error but I haven't followed up on it > > > > to > > > > see what that may be. > > > > I imagine the "VirtualUI.VirtualUI" redirects screen writes to a > > > > virtual > > > > machine that’s why it can't be run locally. > > > > I haven't really gone any further than a simple test. > > > > Might be worthwhile to do some more testing. > > > > I'm sure they probably haven't a clue if dBASE would work. You'd > > > > probably > > > > need to experiment on your own. > > > > Their licensing scheme is very confusing also. > > > > It does however look promising. > > > > Rich... > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mark"  wrote in message news:SxcK7TG0UHA.1864@ip-AC1E04A7... > > > > > > > > I noticed they support Visual Foxpro. > > > > > > > > Maybe falls into silly question category but...anyone here know why > > > > there > > > > would not be a way to support a Dbase app? I will probaly contact > > > > them, > > > > but > > > > thought I'd ask here. > > > > > > > > Very much in the same boat with a huge app and looking for a way to go > > > > to > > > > cloud. > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Wrote: > > > > > > > > > Opps! Heres the link to the product > > > > > > > > > > https://www.cybelesoft.com/thinfinity/virtualui > > > > > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > > > > > Michael Wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an extremely large software product originally written in > > > > > > dbase > > > > > > and have the main user end updated to DBASE 11. (approximately > > > > > > half of > > > > > > it). It has taken me months but now I finding I need to go to > > > > > > cloud > > > > > > and > > > > > > this will require a complete re-write. I have been looking at > > > > > > solutions > > > > > > using terminal services to take my legacy product to web and found > > > > > > this > > > > > > company that has a virtual UI to run through a browser. Can anyone > > > > > > tell > > > > > > me how/what syntax to place these simple commands in dbase > > > > > > software? > > > > > > here is a link with examples of different languages and code. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael. > > > > > > >