Subject Re: Runtime Files From Ken Mayer [dBVIPS] <dbase@_nospam_goldenstag.net> Date Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:33:08 -0800 Newsgroups dbase.getting-started Patrick Kox wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:40:54 -0800, "Ken Mayer [dBVIPS]" > <dbase@_nospam_goldenstag.net> wrote: > >> Patrick Kox wrote: >>>>> 1. I noticed that the final tutorial.exe doesn't work (get the well >>>>> known can't run PLUSRUN error 740 or something). >>>> Is this one YOU created, or one that was out on the web? The one on the >>>> web was probably done with an older version of dBASE ... and sometimes >>>> the runtimes are not compatible ... >>> It's the one downloaded from the website (so the one that Michael >>> Nuwer made). I didn't have time to go through the entire Tutorial yet >>> (I"m at the custom forms section at the moemt). >> Well, you would need the version of the dBASE runtime from when Michael >> compiled it last, and frankly that's not worth the effort. > > Ah, so if it's compiled with dBASE 2.0 for example you need the > runtime files from that verssion ? (and up I would guess ?) Yes. EXCEPT: Not everything is upwardly compatible, nor is everything downwardly compatible. There have been a lot of changes in dBASE over the years, and sometimes things change enough that a program compiled under an older version will not run with the most recent runtime engine. >> Why would you want to do that, when one copy of the necessary files >> makes more sense? The installer for dBASE Runtime deals with *registry >> settings* that tell the .exe where to find the runtime files ... then >> you only need one copy. > > That's how I understood it myself, but am I correct to assume that the > runtime files were already when I installed dBASE Plus 2.61.5 onto my > computer ? Because IF they installed with the dBASE installation (one > would think it is since it seems to be mandatory to run the files > compiled with it) why doesn't the tutorial.exe work ? Yes, they are installed with dBASE. However, dBASE Plus has evolved so much that the current runtime is not compatible with applications compiled with older versions of dBASE -- see above. > As I said, I tried the tutorial.exe that was build by Michael and when > I tried to run I got the PLUSRUN.EXE error and AFAIK it only works > with 2 .manifest files (1 for PLUSRUN.EXE and 1 for tutorial.exe) and > plusrun and resources.dll in the program directory ? When Michael last compiled the tutorial it probably didn't need manifest files, among other things. > I just checked (installed the runtimes with the installer that comes > with the dBASE Plus CD) and now I can start the tutorial.exe without > getting the question to run in Admin mode but the .manifest files > should NOT be in the Final directory where the program is located BUT > Plusrun.exe, resources.dll and PLUsr_en.dll have to be in the > directory or I get the 740 error with plusrun (and now for some reason > the program does not start when the 2 manifest files are in the > directory (tried it yesterday and then it didn't work WITHOUT these > files) I don't know. The registry settings should have been made, unless you were not logged in as Administrator when you installed dBASE ... (?) > Anyway, I guess the runtime files are MORE then just the 3 files > (Resources.dll, plusrun.exe and PLUSr_en.dll so maybe you mean that > these files should be included and not the entire content of the > runtime installer (about 14MB for 1 language or 24 or something for > the entire packages I guess). A good part of that includes the BDE, BDE Administrator, and so on. > Also resources.dll is probably only needed because the program uses it > to get some data (like the icons on the buttons). This also includes character strings used for error messages ... Ken -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ /(Opinions expressed are purely my own, not those of dataBased Intelligence, Inc.)/ *Ken Mayer* [dBVIPS] /Golden Stag Productions/ dBASE at goldenstag dot net http://www.goldenstag.net/GSP http://www.goldenstag.net/dbase/dBASEBooks.htm http://www.goldenstag.net/dbase